Dust in Gravity

[urthona]

ramhornd.blogspot.com/2010/08/music-art-poetry.html

F: the pre-oedipal mother
R: her done woke little eve/efant

"There is from Great Eternity a mild & pleasant rest
Namd Beulah....The Daughters of Beulah follow sleepers in all their Dreams
Creating Spaces lest they fall into Eternal Death"

the time-world is an invention of eno, a daughter of beulah, the mundus imaginalis

"Then Eno a daughter of Beulah took a Moment of Time
And drew it out
F: to Seven thousand years with much care
R: her egg shadows they're/there inside us
& affliction
And many tears & in Every year made windows into Eden
She also took an atom of space & opend its center
Into Infinitude & ornamented it with wondrous art
F: Astonishd sat her Sisters
R: her sister has an answer
of Beulah to see her soft affections
F: To Enion & her children
R: they question any news/there wasn't any news
& they ponderd these things wondring
And they Alternate kept watch over
F: the Youthful terrors
R: seraphi feed [seraphi are the affections, loves]
F: They saw not yet the Hand Divine
R: the oven (had) they done lost it
F: for it was not yet revealed
R: later they answer you"

the time-world is an invention of eno, a daughter of beulah, the mundus imaginalis

"9. When her soul was given to his sons, and his daughters to her chambers ; where indulgences and energies could live in harmony and love ?"

a daughter of beulah is inspiration, which operates during sleep between each heart beat [inspiration is from eternity as opposed to memory/knowledge]
this length of time is 7000 years, 1000 years allotted to each eye of god



F: like dust in gravity lying with my head
R: in our prison maybe god will help us



When I first landed the damage was outlandish
anguish anxiousness
and taking it for granted
but when I first landed
F: I was so relieved I lost my focus
R: sick wolf i'm somebody that wants a wife
so we exceeded recommended dosages
now I
F: hold the crib that holds the soul that holds the poet skills
R: sweet soul that sowed emotions on a crystal (ball)
exclusive
F: it leaves illusions of unfocused flows I don't sup-
R: this one has (luv) sick wolf i mustn't show this feeling
-pose you're taking too much time
breaking too much
F: mind trying to unravel
R: my woman doesn't know
the parable?
that dismantled and left the lines in need of some assembly
so I can find the secret key and free all the emcees
this planet spins on a thin axis
all axis passes won't help you to grasp the atmos'
I mean, what did you think
my agenda was to freestyle, smile, get paid to smoke weed,
and grab the mic and spoonfeed?
there's more to this than just paying the rent
if you're riding on this song you need to ride it to the end
what could you say as
F: the Earth gets further and further away?
R: yeah well the earth will reverse me
planets as small as balls of clay [x4]
some shells get broke
some keep their wigs closed
some get exposed as little man big pose
some make moves and some stay daydreamers
but everybody seems to want some loot, food and a beemer
well make mine hunter green with camel insides,
10 percent tips, Mr. Pibb and some french fries
inch by inch I take it closer to the shoulder
but day by day it's getting harder to stay sober
once again on the edge, head's inebriated
movement needs motive, it's easier to be sedated
what makes me mighty and another tiny?
why does my psyche give a damn about whether or not you like me?
if this crime's right I might be wrong
I grip this mic tight because it's all I really have a grip on
so let the losers lose and let the players play
the difference is
F: the day to some dust on the clay,
R: felt your mozart mrs abbott
what
who's world is that? it ain't mine, and I'm grateful
already got a plate
F: full of clay on my tab-
R: crystal ball felt trouble
-le
I'm capable of handling fate, I know this
so do the people that get pissed when this microphonist spits
too many get caught up in the lines that emcees thought up
but it's clear to me the ones that fear me are the one's that outta
I spot a blemish on your planet's existence
I deliver subtle terror submerged in clever sentences
instantly pissin? away the misfits
the only residue that came of the hypotheticially spew they sprayed
when they swayed I'd have em
half of 'em can't fathom
where the 'Mats? from
I may be on those
you can ask 'em
at last, when we get down to it
there's more than sand and fluid
in how I revolve and evolve
can we solve the secrets? No.
can we take trinkets? No.
so when the ink hits it's more than just a sequenced flow
I can't bring you with me so I'm a
F: leave me here centuries from now they're gonna
R: know your bibles use this evp
study Atmosphere
carefully I steer, I'm aware life
F: is fatal when I go, I wanna
R: you know i want adam (?on the exit/we're missin)
go like Ho, taken by the play-dough
what could you say as the Earth gets further and further away?
planets as small as balls of clay
what could you say
F:as the Earth gets further and further away
R: yeah well the god will reverse these brothers
planets as small as balls of clay
(many more here but the music hurts my ears in reverse)




F: like dust in gravity lying with my head
R: in our prison maybe god will help us

k005.kiwi6.com/hotlink/468k01xqd8/in_our_prison_maybe_god_will_help_us.mp3

But when she saw that Enitharmon had
Created a New Space to protect Satan from punishment:
She fled to Enitharmons Tent & hid herself. Loud raging
Thunderd the Assembly dark & clouded. and they ratify'd
The kind decision of Enitharmon & gave a Time to the Space,
Even Six Thousand years




F: leave me here centuries from now they're gonna
R: know your bibles use this evp

k005.kiwi6.com/hotlink/g4188b3g48/know_your_bibles_use_this_evp.mp3




F: hold the crib that holds the soul that holds the poet skills
R: sweet soul that sowed emotions on a crystal (ball)

k005.kiwi6.com/hotlink/wyfv73c1ye/sweet_soul_that_sowed_emotions_on_a_crystal_ball.mp3



F: as the Earth gets further and further away
R: yeah well the (earth) will reverse these brothers

k005.kiwi6.com/hotlink/yy9zoyenl3/yeah_well_the_earth_will_reverse_me.mp3
(forgot to make the file that goes here but this one means the same thing)

[urthona]

here is the last one after all--i messed up on the one posted


F: as the Earth gets further and further away
R: yeah well the (earth) will reverse these brothers

k005.kiwi6.com/hotlink/760s9uyw4m/yeah_well_the_earth_will_reverse_these_brothers.mp3

[FrankF1]

May 12, 2012 15:08:10 GMT -8 @urthona said:

here is the last one after all--i messed up on the one posted


F: as the Earth gets further and further away
R: yeah well the (earth) will reverse these brothers

k005.kiwi6.com/hotlink/760s9uyw4m/yeah_well_the_earth_will_reverse_these_brothers.mp3

R: yea let the dark sleep grab us

way different ears EH
But i have worked with ten differenent reversers and we all get it a little different but usually the same outcome but we usually need more then 3 or for words to work with

[urthona]

May 14, 2012 8:21:38 GMT -8 FrankF1 said:

May 12, 2012 15:08:10 GMT -8 @urthona said:

here is the last one after all--i messed up on the one posted


F: as the Earth gets further and further away
R: yeah well the (earth) will reverse these brothers

k005.kiwi6.com/hotlink/760s9uyw4m/yeah_well_the_earth_will_reverse_these_brothers.mp3

R: yea let the dark sleep grab us

way different ears EH
But i have worked with ten differenent reversers and we all get it a little different but usually the same outcome but we usually need more then 3 or for words to work with

i hear mine clear as can be--perhaps they mean the same thing--oates goes by the majority keeping to the same meaning but like with this one you have to grasp the metaphor before you actually understand it--i think it might be the result of which zoa you are operating from: emotional physical rational or spiritual, like putting your best foot forward--a lot we still dont understand about rs

i recall that evp on peggy from a video--i could only hear it sporadically and when i did it leapt out from the rest in a way you would have to hear to understand--i was able to isolate it but listening from that did not have the same impact as when hearing it naturally--i did a quick search but havent found it yet; will post if i do

earth is a metaphor for the subconscious, the body, and hell and all energy comes from the body so i imagine it means a misuse or misdirection of energy--blake has a few pics that might tie to this that i havent grasped the meaning of yet--i will see if i can find some of them

one time i swore to someone in reverse that no i was not reversing them; of course i was not at that moment but i had every intention of doing so when i spoke the forward words and obviously i did--that is the only time i thought i might have lied in reverse but now imagine it has another meaning entirely: "the earth will reverse these brothers"

[urthona]

here is a tip to check if what you hear is actually there or projection from your own mind--put an empty space between each word and that shows for sure if the words are there

[urthona]

i couldnt find my notes but here is some of what i posted about the evp on the meditation video peggy posted--the evp was on the forward words not rs

take a listen and see if you hear it--it occurs on the phrase "mind and your ima(gination)" it comes and goes for me, or did, as i havent listened for a long time--she had the same experience of it changing too as she stated in her post
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A Short Lesson in Reptilian Interference in Reverse Speaking
An example of reptilian manipulating RS.

I was just going over these hypnosis reversals and one of them was very different than what I had originally heard. I�m putting this up quickly so you can see what I am talking about and before it can change.

Here was the original reversal:

hypnosis-and-dirty-get-some-fun

Here was the original forward of this:

mind Peggy heard that forward

When I listened just a few moments ago, the word fun had changed and was distorted. So I checked and then checked the forward. It seemed to then go back to the original word fun, but listen to a section of the forward:

and-peggy-heard-that

In this version of the forward, I hear the word mind, Peggy heard that.

mind-peggy-heard-that

Yes they were messing with this audio in that it is breathy, and noisy and so almost EVP-like. But if one suspects anything is off, listen carefully to the forward. They can�t change the reverse without distorting the forward.

Here is the link to that video



As for hypnosis, to be so open and unprotected only invites unwanted guests. Please, if you meditate or do any kind of self hypnosis, put a lot of protection around yourself.

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I've been fiddling with the recording

I discovered that if I cut a portion from the forward phrase, "your mind and your imagination drift", that I can almost duplicate what sounds like what we hear as the EVP phrase

cut out just the words "mind and your ima-"

viola, the EVP

the sound is totally different from the normal sound--it leaps out sometimes-why?

the mystery would be why our minds do this sometimes and sometimes not

this other phrase is so vivid when it it heard

but the larger question: why does it happen at all?
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it isn't mumbo because its replicable

I heard what peggy heard

that makes it scientific

it's reproducible

and for peggy

that's also reversible
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Do you think there is any way to get the point across that EVP, forward speech, and RS are entirely DIFFERENT phenomena? Just because a certain phrase can be found even in forward speech if it is chopped up, does not mean that the resultant phrase SOUNDED the same as when it occurred spontaneously as an EVP phrase.

It sounded different.
It was different.
d**n.
Different.
Do I need to make that more clear? It was different.
I'm guessing the source was different. Maybe a different part of the mind, or something else if that is what you prefer to believe.

IT WAS DIFFERENT.

It isn't even about RS on my end of the deal--it was EVP, not RS

[urthona]

forgot--occurs at about 7 seconds

[urthona]

thing is frank, even tho i might hear something different than what another person does if i know what words their reversals were found on i can go in and find most of what they heard

here is a sample from the same half hour interview done by another person--there was only ONE reversal identical, the first one here--but i was able to find most of what he heard--this is only a portion as i never got around to typing it up but my point is that altho only one reversal was the same i could hear what he heard when i knew where it was--will have to post as pics as it wont copy:














her’s was just to seal and meet ready
we know the rest was just to seal the illegal funds i have

[FrankF1]

don't get me wrong urthona everybody hears differently, its becuase the frequency and how each person hears

[Deleted]

Good advice Urthona spacing the words in the forwards to minimize rs manipulation

[urthona]

May 14, 2012 20:39:27 GMT -8 @tempusx7 said:

Good advice Urthona spacing the words in the forwards to minimize rs manipulation

i was referring to reversals tempus

[Deleted]

Ohh ok usually an R2 catches rs tampering aswell. which is more easier. gotta show me that technique

[urthona]

i do not really accept the idea of reverse tampering

i must admit tho that twice the reverse was missing entirely on a few words--the first time i spent hours going over the tape but it never came back

now i jokingly once said the reps stole it for their own purposes but i dont really believe it--if it happens again i wont be surprised but maybe it was a glitch with the recorder and as i no longer use that recorder it likely wont

i used to use the adding of empty space to show oates my reversals were actually there--he liked to nit-pik--sometimes the forward sounds sort of blur together to make another sound but when you break them the other sounds appears

i no longer have those reversals but the next time i run across one i will show it to you

[urthona]

www.allenginsberg.org/index.php?page=william-blake-class---3-urizen-and-milton

"- This is, I guess, Urizen speaking – “From/ The eternal abode in my holiness,/ Hidden, set apart in my stern counsels/ Reserved for the days of futurity,/ I have sought for a joy without pain/ For a solid without fluctuation/ Why will you die, O Eternals?/ Why live in unquenchable burnings?” – The Eternals, you’ve got to understand, are willing to die. The Eternals are willing to go through the worm, are willing to enter the earth with a clod of clay and a worm. And Urizen wants to protect his territory. He never wants to die. It’s total egotism, total solidification of ego, where he wants to have a “solid without fluctuation”. That’s what makes him opaque, “A solid without fluctuation”, something changeless, he doesn’t want to get old, he doesn’t want to have old age, disease, and death, he doesn’t want the second mark of existence – change. He’s looking for a fixed point, and he’s complaining to these Eternals, who are willing to pass through many transmigrations. – “Why will you die, O Eternals?/ Why live in unquenchable burnings?”/ ‘First, I fought with the fire, consumed/ Inwards into a deep world within -/ A void immense, wild, dark and deep,/ Where nothing was, nature’s wide womb/ And self-balanced stretched o’er the void/ I alone, even I, the winds merciless/ Bound. But condensing, in torrents/ They fall and fall. strong I repelled/ The vast waves and arose on the waters,/ A wide world of solid obstruction.” - “..and arose on the waters,/ A wide world of solid obstruction.” – So, actually, this passage is paralleled by a description of the birth of the solitary, individual, unique, isolated consciousness in (Chogyam) Trungpa’s Cutting Through Spiritual Materialism . There’s a description (there) that’s very similar to the description of the birth of Urizen, the conception of Urizen, and even the creation of ganglia nerves (which will come later in “(the Book of) Urizen”). But first, the conception – a whirling, dizzying space – and then, an individual entity emerging from that, wanting a reference point and a solid base and a stopping to all that change and a fixed obstruction, So this actually the birth of ego, or the birth of self-reflecting self-consciousness – “..and arose on the waters,/ A wide world of solid obstruction.” – Of course you notice the parallel to the Creation in Genesis in the Bible – Creation of the waters.. [Allen resumes reading] – “ ‘Here alone, I, in books formed of metals,/ Have written the secrets of wisdom,/ The secrets of dark contemplation/ By fightings and conflicts dire/ With terrible monsters sin-bred,/ Which the bosoms of all inhabit - / Seven deadly sins of the soul./ ‘Lo I unfold my darkness and on/ This rock..” – like Christ! – “..and on/ This rock place with strong hand the book/ Of eternal brass, written in my solitude./ ‘Laws of peace, of love, of unity,/ Of pity, compassion, forgiveness./ Let each choose one habitation,/ His ancient infinite mansion,/ One command, one joy, one desire,/ One curse, one weight, one measure,/ One King, one God, one Law.’” – Well you can hear that in Richard Nixon [this class is conducted in 1975 – sic]. That’s familiar. You can read it in Commentary magazine, you can read it in corrupt Presidential addresses, you can read it in (the) CIA, you can read it in the FB!, you can read it in any LSD lunatic that thinks he’s God. You can read it in your own soul, any time – the search for the One, the great melancholic search for the one reference point in the Universe. Actually, naturally, one’s own perceptions, or one’s own ego, or one’s own self, by which to measure everything else, and make everything conform to your own existence’s perpetuation, rather than allowing the dissolution of the clod of clay and the worm.

"It’s precisely also what Milton was seeking – One God. And, interesting enough, in our own Buddhist terms, this is the distinction between the theistic and non-theistic points of reference. The theistic point of reference is ultimately a projection of ego-hood onto (a) cosmic scale – that one avenging, or one central, reference, a sense that, since you realize that one’s self cannot be perpetual.. One can be perpetual, but you can’t be continuous solid obstruction forever. One’s self is fated to change and dissolution, so there is a projection of one’s self on the Universe. “Well, at least that won’t change. There’ll be some part of me always there, keeping track of all my soul thoughts, and getting all my thoughts collected up, so I can be One with Him.” – which is, ultimately, conceptual thought – Urizonic conceptual thought."

[urthona]

The Primeval Priest is Urizen, who becomes the archetype of priest and king, assuming the power to impose his laws on others.

Blake often uses double, triple, and even quadruple epithets (as in these lines: "Unknown, unprolific! / Self-closed, all-repelling: what Demon") to create a sense of solidity to his descriptions: "wall of words."

“I have sought for a joy without pain,/ For a solid without fluctuation...” (The Book of Urizen). How does Blake’s poetry comment on Urizen’s longings?
The Urizenic ideology of immutability is what Blake seeks to subvert and destroy throughout his poetry. Urizen’s longings epitomizes the tyranny of religion; “one God, one Law” (The Book of Urizen, Plate 4, line 40). Urizen is the mythological representation of the Orthodox Christian God. Blake condemns this ‘merciful’ God, which praises the ‘good’ (or the passive) and denounces the ‘evil’ (or the energetic). He felt that these distinctions were crippling to the human condition. They crushed positive energy and celebrated enforced conformity. Blake demonstrates that this hypocritical religious oppression was alive in his society, the established church nurtured this Urizenic despotism.

[urthona]

F_that you get these, you see_R_these, see vision

F_i'll have to reread it so i understand it_R_and answer now, said he reached out