FRANK

[urthona2]

just so you know

that was not me on your other forum today (8-20-2013)

check the ip--mine is always the same

someone playing both parts [badly]

i dont waste time on dots and caps and such nonsense

[urthona2]

upon second look i could be mistaken--might have been someone else

i will let you all sort it out

[Sue aka guest]

Aug 21, 2013 4:06:14 GMT -8 @urthona2 said:

upon second look i could be mistaken--might have been someone else

i will let you all sort it out

I'm not sure which part you're talking about, but that was not you Urthona, so don't worry.

K gets jealous when women compliment her men over there, lol, and it was just annoying me. She's looking for Sue Ward, whoever the hell that is, and she went after you and Terry.

K sends that song (Fire Down Below) whenever she thinks you're a spellcaster, so I sent it back, lol.

She's heavily programmed and they send these people in to distract. Usually I ignore her, but yesterday I was already getting hit with stupid shit and she sent me over the edge.

[urthona2]

Aug 21, 2013 5:05:32 GMT -8 @Sue aka guest said:

Aug 21, 2013 4:06:14 GMT -8 @urthona2 said:

upon second look i could be mistaken--might have been someone else

i will let you all sort it out

I'm not sure which part you're talking about, but that was not you Urthona, so don't worry.

K gets jealous when women compliment her men over there, lol, and it was just annoying me. She's looking for Sue Ward, whoever the hell that is, and she went after you and Terry.

K sends that song (Fire Down Below) whenever she thinks you're a spellcaster, so I sent it back, lol.

She's heavily programmed and they send these people in to distract. Usually I ignore her, but yesterday I was already getting hit with stupid shit and she sent me over the edge.

thanks guest, a totally novel experience in these peripheral parts of this punkie universe--im more accustomed to peeps only speaking up here to hit below the belt haha

anyways she thinks i am this sue ward as ward was my maiden name--i have an x sil named sue (i believe x is correct in this case as my brother died recenty)

[guest]

Aug 21, 2013 6:10:01 GMT -8 @urthona2 said:

Aug 21, 2013 5:05:32 GMT -8 @Sue aka guest said:

I'm not sure which part you're talking about, but that was not you Urthona, so don't worry.

K gets jealous when women compliment her men over there, lol, and it was just annoying me. She's looking for Sue Ward, whoever the hell that is, and she went after you and Terry.

K sends that song (Fire Down Below) whenever she thinks you're a spellcaster, so I sent it back, lol.

She's heavily programmed and they send these people in to distract. Usually I ignore her, but yesterday I was already getting hit with stupid shit and she sent me over the edge.

thanks guest, a totally novel experience in these peripheral parts of this punkie universe--im more accustomed to peeps only speaking up here to hit below the belt haha

anyways she thinks i am this sue ward as ward was my maiden name--i have an x sil named sue (i believe x is correct in this case as my brother died recenty)

Sorry to hear about your brother.

I think she was accusing Terry of being Sue Ward and she put you in the mix, lol.

K is just trying to pick a fight over there, but if she messes with me, "damn the torpedoes, full speed ahead!"... just saying, lol.

[urthona2]

its an ongoing thing guest--nothing new

reasons/satans daughters are a jealous lot and they seem to not even want a man unless he can serve them or is already attached to someone else or they think he is

i can see what her life must have been like with so many guys out there

blake says hatred has to run its course til it burns itself up before love is possible

[Mrs Asshole aka Sue aka guest]

These are my relatives... ;D

[urthona2]

Aug 21, 2013 7:03:13 GMT -8 @Mrs Asshole aka Sue aka guest said:

These are my relatives... ;D

you know all this reminds me of a reverse i was working on recently--let me find it

i think in this fallen world, which blake refers to as ulro, we contemplate the asshole instead of the belly button

ulro is the intestines, where we feel intuition--its our only real connection to the natural world--not only is the natural world a projection of our emotions but our intestines also absorb there from what we eat--this is why gmo modified food is so harmful to us--the stuff they force into the genetic structure of plants is absorbed from the food and becomes part of our own dna

i should work some more on that one and perhaps a vid dealing with forcing herbicides onto plant dna

ok heres a few reversals and notes on them as we worked on it:


F_awe inspiring_R_your asshole

F_by a vast invisible reality_R_spirals in me saw them

F_invisible to our senses_R_says this assholes in me [not sure if that is "in me" or guests "sidney"][says this arse holes in me, uses the english word, arse hole, americans say ass hole, i heard this very well ]

F_and allow those normal invisible realms_R_spirals in me_hormones are wild [drugs affect hormones?]

F_those normal invisible realms_R_spirals in me saw that

F_(wi)der and awe inspiring uh reality_R_describe your asshole backward [??youre a soul, might be that also/instead/both--one forward, backward your an asshole, in a female space you shrink, are a "small person" not afraid to be seen as a small person, an asshole--metaphor--a black hole hahaha lol][turned inside out i think--my brother saw whoopi goldberg in a dream and she turned herself back the other way, outside in, and he said she was amazingly beautiful][me jung and others have had dreams of god or angels (elohim yup) splatting us with shit instead of manna][very rude , all that from graham and he's so well spoken too][oh yeah johnny cash said in his rs on that song "i walk the line" R god says its shit][oh its not on you--its on peegy we-will-be-new-one-asshole.Mp3]

[urthona2]

ok go ahead and call me an ass hole but this pic came to mind:

[img src="i646.photobucket.com/albums/uu183/urthona2/franks/ENO_zps2e14fdde.jpg"][/img]

eno, ancient mother _ blake

does it not look as if she might be squeezing one off--take your pic which

F: the pre-oedipal mother
R: her done woke little eve/efant [infant i suppose]

"There is from Great Eternity a mild & pleasant rest
Namd Beulah....The Daughters of Beulah follow sleepers in all their Dreams
Creating Spaces lest they fall into Eternal Death"

Creating Spaces lest they fall into Eternal Death"
the time-world is an invention of eno, a daughter of beulah, the mundus imaginalis
"Then Eno a daughter of Beulah took a Moment of Time
And drew it out

F: to Seven thousand years with much care
R: her egg shadows they're/there inside us

& affliction
And many tears & in Every year made windows into Eden
She also took an atom of space & opend its center
Into Infinitude & ornamented it with wondrous art

F: Astonishd sat her Sisters
R: her sister has an answer

of Beulah to see her soft affections

F: To Enion & her children
R: they question any news/there wasn't any news

& they ponderd these things wondring
And they Alternate kept watch over

F: the Youthful terrors
R: seraphi feed [seraphi are the affections, loves]

F: They saw not yet the Hand Divine
R: the oven (?had, seems to change) they done lost it

F: for it was not yet revealed
R: later they answer you

But they went on in Silent Hope & Feminine repose"

women used to squat for both

[urthona2]

[urthona2]

In psychoanalytic theory, the term Oedipus complex denotes the emotions and ideas that the mind keeps in the unconscious, via dynamic repression, that concentrate upon a boy’s desire to sexually possess his mother, and kill his father.[1][2] Sigmund Freud, who coined the term "Oedipus complex" believed that the Oedipus complex is a desire for the mother in both sexes (he believed that girls have a homosexual attraction towards their mother); Freud deprecated the term "Electra Complex", a term which was introduced by Carl Gustav Jung.

The Oedipus complex occurs in the third — phallic stage (ages 3–6) — of five psychosexual development stages: (i) the Oral, (ii) the Anal, (iii) the Phallic, (iv) the Latent, and (v) the Genital — in which the source libido pleasure is in a different erogenous zone of the infant’s body.

[guest]

Hey Urthona, I saw over at GLP that David Oates has his forum back up. He also has a interview on Coast to Coast this Sept. 5. Thought you'd be interested. I'm not a big follower of his, but I thought maybe you would be interested to know.

www.shewolfe.net/mybb/forumdisplay.php?fid=5

[urthona2]

thx

[urthona2]

play nice wtf

gee at least a kangaroo court like i was honored with eh

[urthona2]

William Butler Yeats (1865-1939)

THE SECOND COMING

Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.

Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: a waste of desert sand;
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Wind shadows of the indignant desert birds.

The darkness drops again but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?


The Second Coming was written in 1919 in the aftermath
of the first World War. The above version of the poem is
as it was published in the edition of Michael Robartes and
the Dancer dated 1920 (there are numerous other
versions of the poem). The preface and notes in the book
contain some philosphy attributed to Robates.

In Yeats' note on the text, he states that "the end of an age, which always receives the revelation of the character of the next age, is represented by the coming of one gyre to its place of greatest expansion and of the other to that of its greatest contraction" (2036). Yeats believes that the two thousand years of Christianity will be coming to an end, and after a violent reversal a new age will take its place. The widening part of the gyre is supposed to connote anarchy, evil, and the loss of innocence.

Spiritus Mundi is "a collective unconscious or memory, in which the human race preserves its past memories. Spiritus mundi translated from Latin means spirit of the universe.

W.B. Yeats' poem "The Second Coming" was written in 1919, just one year after WWI ended. The beginning of this poem reflects on how evil has taken over the minds of good Christians, and the world has turned into chaos. It is apparent that Yeats believes that a Second Coming is at hand, and he spends the last half of the poem discussing what that Second Coming could look like.

Turning and turning in the widening gyre (line 1)

Yeats imagines the world in a cyclical sphere known a gyre (shape of a cone). In Yeats' note on the text, he states that "the end of an age, which always receives the revelation of the character of the next age, is represented by the coming of one gyre to its place of greatest expansion and of the other to that of its greatest contraction" (2036). Yeats believes that the two thousand years of Christianity will be coming to an end, and after a violent reversal a new age will take its place. The widening part of the gyre is supposed to connote anarchy, evil, and the loss of innocence.

The falcon cannot hear the falconer; (2)

The falconer in this analogy is most likely God (or Jesus), and the falcon is the follower (or devotee). Humanity can no longer hear the word of God, because it is drowned out by all of chaos of the widening gyre. A wild falcon can symbolize an unconverted Gentile; someone who has sinful thoughts, and does sinful things. A tame falcon (one who listens to the word of God) is a Christian convert. In the Egyptian culture, the falcon is used to represent sky deities (or in Christian terms, God).

Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;

Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world, (3-4)

Everything will fall into chaos if there is not a guiding morality such as God. The world cannot stay at the center of the gyre, because it would mean complete destruction. There has to be a reversal so that things can once again come into balance. The world has to start at the tip of the cone again, which means there has to be a violent reversal in order to make this happen.

The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere

The ceremony of innocence is drowned; (5-6)

The "blood-dimmed tide" could be referring to when Moses parted the Red Sea. The Pharaoh agreed to let Moses and his people leave Egypt, but then changed his mind. The Pharaoh and his men chased after them. Moses used his staff to part the Red Sea and lead his people to safety, and the Pharaoh and his army were drowned behind them. The word "ceremony" connotes something that is not real, is just a habit, or a façade. Innocence no longer exists in the world; it is all just a show put on by humanity. The Pharaoh ceremoniously let Moses and his people go, but after they left he went after them with the intention of either killing them or re-enslaving them.

The best lack all conviction, while the worst

Are full of passionate intensity (7-8).

Humanity is already evil, but the ones who seem to be the least evil don't have any convictions or beliefs. On the opposite end of the spectrum, the most evil let their intense emotions rule them. Now is a good time to remember that this poem was written in the aftermath of WWI and the Russian Revolution, and just before the tensions came to a head in the Anglo-Irish War. The Anglo-Irish War is about the Irish wanting to separate themselves from English rule; this was a very intense time in Irish history, and Yeats being of Irish decent would have felt these tensions.

Surely some revelation is at hand;

Surely the Second Coming is at hand (9-10).

Yeats is saying here that there has to be some reason why all the blood-shed from WWI happened; there has to be a rational reason why there is so much evil in the world. In the first book of John, it states "little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time" (Holy Bible, 1 John. 2.18). The second coming is to be preceded by an Antichrist and absolute chaos.

The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out

When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi

Troubles my sight: somewhere in the sands of the desert

A shape with a lion body and the head of a man,

A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,

Is moving its slow thights, while all about it

Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds (11- 17).

This section of the poem is Yeats' version of the Second Coming. Spiritus Mundi is "a collective unconscious or memory, in which the human race preserves its past memories. Spiritus mundi translated from Latin means spirit of the universe.

The image is very large and hard for a person to take in all at once. The desert is either the Judean desert or Egypt. In this context, I tend to lean more towards Eygpt, but in the larger context of the poem the Judean desert is also plausible. The figure of the human head with a lion's body is called a sphinx. Sphinx are said to be temple guardians; they guard royal tombs and religious temples. If the sphinx is guarding a royal tomb then the head on the sphinx is usually the head of the pharaoh buried within the tomb. The most widely known sphinx is the Great Sphinx of Giza. The head of that sphinx is said to be that of Pharaoh Khafra. The gaze of the sphinx has no mercy for humanity much like the desert sun as no mercy for those beneath its rays. It is moving "its slow thighs" toward Jersualem to be born again. Desert birds are hawks or falcons, which symbolize sky deities or God. They are indignant because they are extremely upset with what the world has become, and as the representations of the Egyptian deities they are guiding the sphinx to Jerusalem bring order to the world again.

Its highly unlikely that Yeats was referring to a literal sphinx going towards Jerusalem, but rather a figurative sphinx; something so huge that it will block out the sun forcing the world into a metaphorical darkness that will inevitably cleanse humanity. It has been two thousand years (or twenty centuries) since Jesus died for the world's sins, and the metaphorical sphinx has been lying in waiting for its time to unleash its evils upon the world.

The rocking cradle is the image of Christ and his mother. It can also be used to represent the anti-Christ being rocked by his mother. The rough beast is the anti-Christ that will bring destruction and pain to the world. This unholy creature will be born in the holy birth place of Christ.

Some believe that the "rough beast" that Yeats foresaw is Hitler, and the atrocities that he inflicted upon the Jews were what was needed to reunite humanity and bring about peace.

[urthona2]

well sadly we know by now that hitler was not the end of the evil

i had started reversing a video about the testing of gmo grain and animals in those tests

certainly not what i expected at all--this section stood out:

these few reversals are from the end of the vid:

4F_anyway guys hope you enjoyed that_R_i dont need that formula

F_i will see you guys when i see you next_R_

3F_bye oh god_R_uh oh help

2F_sorry its really got to me its just that those pictures its just amazing that what_R_oh_the museum is just the pictures inside your earth

1F_people will do for pictures_R_see shit_refuse the movie

blake says the earth is the subconscious--this is likely the hall of records, the museum, the metaphorical sphinx

[urthona2]

holy shades of animal farm!!

i just started reversing the webinar oates posted on the resurrected reap forum

i am going to keep the reversals under my hat for a while but i do urge you all to take a peek--its over four hours so you may want to just record off your computer for a smaller section instead of downloading--the section im working on is at the end

anyways this explains in part what i was finding from the gmo videos

i still say resist eating gmo poison and resist poisoning your brain with deliberate hypnosis and will continue to do so until i find proof that i am wrong

[urthona2]

R_eve said part of (the trouble, the promise)[partly overlapping]_this is nasty shit both of us has spoken_its in love_you want me to get (rid of it, relevant)

F_testimony_R_(promise it, the opposite)

more jumbled into the mix but those are the clearer parts

F_(t)-es(t)imon-[has to be heard]_R_opposite

[urthona]

Aug 24, 2013 9:24:22 GMT -8 @urthona2 said:

R_eve said part of (the trouble, the promise)[partly overlapping]_this is nasty shit both of us has spoken_its in love_you want me to get (rid of it, relevant)

F_testimony_R_(promise it, the opposite)

more jumbled into the mix but those are the clearer parts

F_(t)-es(t)imon-[has to be heard]_R_opposite

this is nasty shit both of us has spoken--wondering if that might be what we call the freudian slips and bleed thrus--the subconscious is becoming stronger, gathering force

going thru my opposite reversals:

F_the opposite direction_R_i shared this spot
F_special place_R_its the opposite
F_conquistador a vulture sits_R_this switch opens opposite

F_as a time machine_so the string theory is_R_you reverse it_its in opposite

www.reversespeech.com/desertstorm.htm

[urthona2]

Aug 24, 2013 9:24:22 GMT -8 @urthona2 said:

R_eve said part of (the trouble, the promise)[partly overlapping]_this is nasty shit both of us has spoken_its in love_you want me to get (rid of it, relevant)

F_testimony_R_(promise it, the opposite)

more jumbled into the mix but those are the clearer parts

F_(t)-es(t)imon-[has to be heard]_R_opposite

just found this:

F_something outside of the conscious mind_R_becomes a shock thats my infant

F_and uh but if if you dont mind me_R_female (?) a testimony

[urthona2]

2F_sorry its really got to me its just that those pictures its just amazing that what_R_oh_the museum is just the pictures inside your earth

blake says the earth is the subconscious--this is likely the hall of records, the museum, the metaphorical sphinx, the collective unconscious

memories are stored in the body, our personal earth or subconscious

becomes a shock thats my infant

soundcloud.com/urthona2/
becomes-a-shock-thats-my

has to shock my infant

soundcloud.com/urthona2/sends-a-shock-to-us-oh-stop-oh

soundcloud.com/urthona2/
has-to-shock-my-infant

and just for the heck of it:

soundcloud.com/urthona2/sends-a-shock-to-us-oh-stop-oh

[urthona2]

i hate soundcloud


soundcloud.com/urthona2/becomes-a-shock-thats-my

soundcloud.com/urthona2/has-to-shock-my-infant

and just for the heck of it:

soundcloud.com/urthona2/sends-a-shock-to-us-oh-stop-oh